I have started a silent protest with my spouse. Offer nativity/creche exhibit (s) for viewing. They wondered where to look, how best to help, and which church members had the right interests, skills and resources to rescue. I agree. They do a great job setting up meetings, conducting meetings, and using agendas! On the other hand, the Spirit should be allowed to break that rule. by Leading Saints | Mar 8, 2015 | Bishops, Elders Quorum, Podcast Episodes, Primary Presidencies, Ward Council, Ward Mission Leader | 95 comments, Podcast: Play in new window | Download | Embed. All church leaders should go visit Toastmasters meetings! When a meeting is a revelatory experience it doesnt take long, no matter how many minutes pass. Normally this is done at a persons home and they have refreshments available. As Melissa turned her attention back to the ward council meeting, she thought, If only everyone could be surrounded by such loving friends and leaders as they progress toward the temple., Her thoughts were interrupted as she heard the Relief Society president comment on a sister in need: She wasnt at church last Sunday. Our Ward Council meetings have historically lasted 90 minutes. Seriously, if you havent figured out how to turn a meeting into a revelatory experience, just cancel it. They dont have to be the guidelines listed here (they are simply my point of view) but guidelines are important. They focus on individuals and families first, then how programs can help. Its a waste of peoples time to review a list of announcements, activity details, dates, etc. Leader. This gave the children courage to move forward. Its not exactly their fault if they dont know how to conduct a meeting. Good direction here, but I think it does need to be said. Thank you for commenting. Love. Preparation or the lack thereof can speak to the spiritual maturity of your councilors, or the circumstances they find themselves in. I have been at Church all day. Spiritual Thoughts and Heavenly Actions Spiritual Thoughts and Heavenly Actions A source for all things spiritually up lifting. I get the sentimentbut you will notice a recurring theme throughout Handbook 2a lack of hard rules about church administration. Many members need help finding work. I had forgotten that my counselors son was arriving back from his mission a few hours prior to our scheduled meeting. They can call or email participants and ask for businesses to be included. Im a firm believer in keeping meetings under an hour. Many people read and apply and others dont for whatever reasons. Among other callings, Mike served as a full-time missionary (Japan Tokyo South), early morning seminary teacher, elders quorum president, ward mission leader, and in multiple bishoprics despite his large, young family. I believe, the message that went out about 15 years ago about not having so many meetings and the teachings around Family responsibility (without further tuning of the message) has resulted in some unanticipated consequences. If admin gets done before the meeting, cancel the meeting. Life is too short to be miserable and unhappy in the church and in life! We are on fire!!! Without tech I would not be able to look at my calendar, look up what calling someone has, etc. A week before I was called as a stake RS president, I attended a stake/ward leadership training meeting where stake presidents closing remarks were based solely on delegation and among other wonderful words of encouragement and counsel, related the story of Moses & his father-in-law, Jethro (Exodus 18) Being made aware of that principle has certainly helped me to cope and to enjoy serving in whatever capacity I have been called to serve. In his book Counseling with Our Councils, Elder M.Russell Ballard of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles gives the following three suggestions: First, focus on fundamentals. Follow the guidelines in Handbook 2: Administering the Church, chapter 4, which can be found online in the Serving in the Church section of LDS.org. Preparation still requires time, focus and the spirit. The current pattern has certainly been by a unanimous choice/preference of those participating. (that makes me sound old). Rifling through papers is inefficient and time consuming. Councils are increasingly being emphasized by Church leaders in their teaching and training. The leader needs to instruct the secretary, several days in advance, as to what should should be on the agenda and then the secretary can send the agenda out by e-mail, mail or whatever. My goal was to get a conversation started about this important subject and it appears it worked. I am still not fluent in Ipad. Below is an outline of how our council was inspired to restructure the agenda your council could use this as a template or a starting place. Delegate and Follow Up! We arent saving souls by spending 3 hours listening to 10 return missionaries at HC meeting. Maybe we should write a church book on how to conduct effective and productive church meetings! Provide a musical event that celebrates Christ's birth, like a cantata. But we have a certain amount of work that needs to be done, and rushing through a meeting and having people get up and leave when a timer goes off is a silly suggestion, in my view. MLS is terrible at this we put on one page what MLS put on 14. Thanks for these great ideas. Leaders need to give autonomy to those they lead. Gunzenhausen (German pronunciation: [ntsnhazn] (); Bavarian: Gunzenhausn) is a town in the Weienburg-Gunzenhausen district, in Bavaria, Germany.It is situated on the river Altmhl, 19 kilometres (12 mi) northwest of Weienburg in Bayern, and 45 kilometres (28 mi) southwest of Nuremberg.Gunzenhausen is a nationally recognized recreation area. I realize that last minute changes occur but an annual meeting schedule could help solve so many problems up front. ~ President Ezra Taft Benson. I have attended meetings that were too long at 20 min and at 2hrs plus that were not too long. I have also sat through high council meetings that were 1 1/2 hours long and wondered where the time went. Like Elder Bednar said there are Administrators and Ministers in the church. Mainly because many of us use our phones and/or tablets for calendars and such. One thing we wrestle with is it takes 60 minutes to get to the meeting, and 60 minutes to drive home from the meeting (literally). We spent a lot of time on tablets / laptops reviewing spreadsheets and docs we created. Its an inspired pattern that the bishop, by virtue of the keys, has to direct. As Melissa looked at the faces of the members of the ward council, she saw genuine affection and concern. Sometimes the invitation can be decided by the ward council, but all should be encouraged to follow the Spirit with regard to what invitation or challenge to present. We can't wait to see you in the morning! Pray to understand their needs and what you can do then step out of the way and let the Lord do his work. I think there is some drastic attitude adjustment needed, but since weve worked so hard to have everything come from the top, itll need to come from there before it changes. I completely disagree with the opinion about tech. He is thinkingman, we just keep going around in circles on this topic EVERY week! Unfortunately, the training that many people acquire in the business world or other settings threatens to turn councils into merely a target for delegating tasks as directed by the lone leader in charge. You may be right, but I challenge you to find a way. Honey.I have the Ward Council to go to. They got over it. This forces council members to communicate midweek as much as possible over email, text, etc. Thanks for sharing. . Nobody has time to pre-brainstorm because (1) nobody plans that far in advance, (2) they actually believe that the Ward Council is the meeting where this takes place. Honesty is the very essence of the gospel of Jesus Christ. . #11 Best Value of 2,333 places to stay in Gunzenhausen. It was a very good meeting. Meetings in the Churchits a love/hate thing. Our best presidency meetings happened while I was away. The Sunday School president is responsible for all gospel instruction during Sunday School. Just as in Joplin, Puerto Francisco de Orellana, and Liverpool, Church leaders worldwide continue to discover the blessings of ward and branch councils. The bishop may also ask him to help follow up with ward council members on their assignments. They lack people skills, leadership skills, and tend to turn others off. And consider specific items to discuss. GOSSIPING. No one is required to atteng a meeting. So meetings are few, but precious. I have just received revelation to postpone our stake relief society evaluation meeting. I am not sure if this is an appropriate venue for posting this, but here is a link to a google sheet that will enable a unit leader to make a customized Bishopric and Sacrament Meeting Template. Like I said above, the longer a meeting goes, the more creativity diminishes. and then start running their meetings based on real needs, and so forththe productivity in the Church would really go up. And lots of tools for having meetings that dont get used either. Ive tried to practice some of the things listed, but lately Ive felt like my meetings havent been as productive. Learn, share then go & do is my motto with this stuff. Together they have five children and have heard every Brady Bunch joke in the book. The rank and file workers are often clueless, and quietly steaming. Because 60minutes of people being unprepared is still as ineffective as 90min or 2 hours of people being unprepared. In fact, He expects you not simply to face the future (that sounds pretty grim and stoic); He expects you to embrace and shape the future to love it and rejoice in it and delight in your opportunities." I keep notes, carry scriptures and manuals, maintain a calendar, and just about everything else on an iPad. There are so many church members that feel left out in church and being part of an active committee could help make many of these people feel welcomed and needed. President Hinckley apparently was really big on being super on time. Spiritual Thoughts A Collection of Spiritual Thoughts Hopefully Some That You've Never Seen Before You know the drill. As an example of having seen that years ago our bishop asked each auxiliary presidency to fast, attend the temple and pray about a specific scripture and consider its application to their stewardship and how they could ultimately help their members grow closer to the Lord. Metrics (quarterly reports and key indicators) were touched on perhaps we could have done more of that. Awesome points, everyone! I think we need to do the best we can with what we have. After each council meeting, the bishopric would convene for a few minutes to discuss how things went, what went well, and what could be improved. "We should bear in mind that the success of a given activity cannot always be judged by its size. Walk with faith, rejoicing in the beauties of nature, in the goodness of those you love, in the testimony which you carry in your heart concerning things divine.". I know how that feels, because we had 6 missionaries in one branch and branch coordination would last for almost 3 hours just because the way we (the missionaries) were reporting was really inefficient and it would go from there to the brainstorming no-no that dragged it out even longer while people tried to come up with solutions. Years ago, I had a boss who couldnt process any problem without a room full of people. No disagreement about that ideally all would receive revelation in ward council and that a bishop should confirm revelation, but Im still unsettled. Do whateverworks for you, as long as those attending the meeting know what will be discussed and have time prior to the meeting to process the information. I think many people would be interested in that topic. As we would test and determine which practices had a positive effect on our bishopric meetings, wed introduce them to the ward council. In 1989, Elder Boyd K. Packer warned young men and young women to avoid participating in dark spiritual practices, no matter the circumstances: "A warning: there is a dark side to spiritual things. Im open to better ideas, so write your own list and send it to me. But assuming the leader is mis-guided is the wrong way to state it. Don't subscribe On Sunday last I was in a ward council during which a Bishop made the following statement: "As I counseled with a sister this week, I felt impressed to tell her that the reason she was required to go through what she was facing was because she needed that . I believe there are lots of different meetings and meeting agendas for different purposes that could be held in the church. You will find that not much is impacted by fewermeetings. (1) when an issue takes up time at a meeting that could easily (or even more effectively) be dealt with in an email; I no longer have to carry around loads of materials like a bag lady. Same meeting, same prayer and someone else struggles with it for several minutes. Thus, once it is returned to the organization, efforts need to be made at the council level to keep the visits going. When I apologized to the bishop, he told me to never apologize that my husband was were he needed to be. I am excited to hear of your success with your approach. Count Your Blessings. Or they are afraid to step outside the BOX! I agree with a lot that you said but feel bad that you classify my opinion in a negative light. I agree whole heartedly with what you state here: The mind can only take in what the seat can endure. I believe it 100%. And to strengthen the mind portion of their personal testimonies. Anyone can choose to not attend a meeting with or without an excuse. Here are my observations of how this bishop achieved so much: Meetings, callings, the church itself: are all pointless unless there is a vision. Our church Members and Leaders come from all different walks of life and life experiences. The bishop can delegate to quorum and group leaders some of the work he does with families. One statement that was never uttered in the School of the Prophets, Oh, sorry, I thought I put this on silent.. See more ideas about spiritual thoughts, lds quotes, church quotes. Now, if someone is playing a game on their device, thats a different story entirely. Organizations had not been doing regular visits, despite repeated requests, invitations, etc., so he decided to own it at the ward council level while believing that it should have been owned by each organization. The bishop replied to his ward member that he did not have a watch with him the night before, but he knew he wouldn't need one. Sixteen of those years included Bishopric meetings, either as an Executive Secretary, a Ward Clerk, or a Bishop's Counselor.. I have never had the Bishopric, Elders Quorum Presidency, Relief Society Presidency, Primary Presidency, or High Priest Group Leader come to our home just to visit and say hi! They have different levels of education, knowledge, backgrounds, training, experence, culture, expectations, gospel maturity, etc. RE: HC If you have more than six missionaries reporting their missions in the same week (ten minutes per missionary), it is probably time to split your stake. Removing his voice as the main (dominant) voice of the meeting had the additional effect of people listening more to one another and to the Spirit. Yesterday, due to Ward Conference, it was made known beforehand that Ward Council would only be 45 minutes. Handbook 2 ( 4.6) advises ward council should be 60-90 minutes in duration. The author doesnt mean to impose them, but it is a good exercise reading them and getting what benefits you. We still see many meetings not being ran the right way throughout our units. #3 No administration allowed is a good thing to strive for, but it only works if the admin is actually accomplished outside of the meeting. We learn in the temple that the Spirit can be restrained in its effectiveness if the unified body isnt truly unified. The EQ Pres. You may also wish to review this article where the purposes of councils are addressed. I believe my mothers advice: if your meeting is longer than it needs to be, you end up gossiping as a group. After reading the following scriptures, please share your thoughts on the discussion board regarding the questions below. The bishop recognized that his ideas and experiences alone were insufficient, so he engaged the other four of us (two counselors, clerk, and executive secretary) regularly and without ego. No Brainstorming: Brainstorming can be powerful, but it doesnt need to happen within a meeting. Having these as goals is important, but if Bishop just isnt a good meeting leader, Ill cut him some slack, maybe try to help him out, and focus on what he does bring to the table. The branch council also draws on Church resources, such as the LDS Employment Services career workshop materials.2 They established a class taught by a branch member, which helped another branch member find a better job. 6 Rosenstrasse, 91781 Weissenburg in Bayern, Bavaria, Germany. Im not sure how to resolve this as we have to continue functioning. Power lines were down. Preparing for that purpose is the responsibility of each ward council member. But never, and I mean NEVER, is a meeting worth 61 minutes. Dumb idea. I have concerns with #5 no tech. (3) when people in the meeting start contributing comments that arent really relevant or are just FYI-type items rather than what were in the meeting for. Do you disagree? We would then have time for the important items on the agenda. They can also learn how to become better speakers, better leaders, and better people persons! #6 the Misguided Presiding Authority Im not sure what you mean, here, but I think I agree with you. Then he presents the issues and debates begin. He Counseled with His Bishopric Council If he wanted an amazing and engaged ward council, hed learn how to do it first at the bishopric council level. If I had the wish of my heart, I would remove from the vocabulary of the Latter-day Saints the word meeting. I thought of the leaders, the members, and the missionaries who had worked in unity and of their Christlike love and service. Saying that, The bishop isnt there to get revelation sounds shaky. So lets agree that you wont hold another meeting unless you have sufficiently outlined it as a revelatory experience. "Don't be put off by the old fashioned reception area, this is a nice hotel. Latter-day Saints are using ward and branch councils to bless the lives of those in need. And while we do accomplish much and generally remain focused on the task at hand, input and involvment drastically drops after an hour. (please comment below) Meetings longer than 60 minutes damage your effectiveness as a leader. All How would he treat the situation? As bishop, he could cancel any meeting on a whim. If you cant help but go over the 1 hour mark, then you need more discipline through a timer. Austin Today I went to Ward Council and gave the Spiritual Thought. Sometimes a person has been placed in a position that is designed to stretch them, they will be in above their heads and thats by design. Thanks for writing this article. In other situations, Ive been the one slow to receive confirmation while others receive confirmation quickly. They dont plan very well. He and Elder Nielson, and I think Elder De Jager spoke, and then we had a prayer and took a break, which we thought was for lunch, until we realized it was dark and we had spent the whole day in that meeting non-stop and it was over. It is easy for the person in charge of the meeting to get derailed and go off on tangents. This discussion reminds me of a quote I heard which sums up the whole concept: It takes a mighty fine meeting to beat no meeting at all.. I received a message from Elder Ward, one of the missionaries in my Ward yesterday morning asking me to checkout Twitter. I went home, reworked the agenda, sent it to the Stake President with comments that we could all read the calendar and come with questions, if we had them. Thank you so much for this great post. I was the Bishop. I have been in 8 hour meetings in a business setting where every minute was used effectively and set expectations and approaches in a way that guided everything the team did. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. Eli H. Pierce. Meetings should ALWAYS have a pupose other than to meet. Cheshire Cat: That depends a good deal on where you want to get to. This is in no way a statement of apostasy. To learn more about succeeding in your calling, visit the Leadership Training Library, available in several languages at leadershiplibrary.lds.org. We prayed and listened for answers, and they camethey always came. The few Ive had to attend were 2- to 3-hour nightmares, so I agree with you on the time aspect. Nope. This is a perfect example of Parkinsons law. The length of a meeting should be kept to the minimum amout of time need to fulfill the goal of the meeting. I agree, but I challenge you to try it. by Leading Saints | Dec 5, 2018 | Articles, Bishops, Elders Quorum, Ministering, Primary Presidencies, Relief Society, Ward Council, Youth Leadership | 0 comments. Lds Quotes. This was patterned from bishopric training given by our stake presidency at the time. They make me so frustrated when theyre run poorly! He Fasted and Prayed I observed that my bishops ascent to the mountaintop started well below sea level, meaning he had a steep learning curve despite his years of experience as a bishops counselor. If you cant see how the meeting can stay under an hour, just cancel it because you arent ready to hold a meeting. Our ward council lasts about 90 minutes, but I feel if we were told it would only be 60 we would be able to do it in 60 without any trouble at all. I had a good friend that was released as a bishop because he was called to his stake presidency. However, even though Ive read Ballards book and the handbk of instructions maybe Ive missed something that youre hitting onWhile serving as a bishop I felt like it was my role to lead, out in suggestingnot demanding, not commanding, and not insisting (Elder Jay E. Jensen, BYU Speeches, Aug 16, 2011). Easy-peazy. I went to a town 5 hours including a boat ride away to my parents house so they could help with my other 2 small children. Why Work Doesnt Happen at Workby Jason Fried, A Look At MeetingsProductivityist Podcast. In Liverpool, New York, USA, as Primary president Melissa Fisk attended ward council meeting, she gained insight into its power. It comes when a youth leader has a candid conversation with a young man who trusts him. Or week by week. the ones that drone, on the other hand. I have sat in wonderment at some of the things said about people. In a Stake we would do some alternating. I believe in the adage that Failure to plan is planning to fail! I wrote the post with the assumption that everyone runs their meetings according to the spirit. We only did this for 12 or so months, but this was the year our ward saw 20 baptisms and was strengthened by a dozen returning members. When I say meeting I am not referringto any meetings in the 3 hour block. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is led by the First Presidency (a president and two counselors) and the Quorum of Twelve Apostles. Everything gets discussed but few solutions or plans of action are implemented. How you run a meeting has a dramatic influence on how you are loved as a leader. No excuse is required. Now having said that, there are things we can do that can make our meetings more effective and efficient, some of which were mentioned, but they are hardly unbreakable. They work together in love to serve and strengthen individuals and families in the ward or branch. A missionary is released with a Stake President 10 min meeting and great job, so why do we need to take hours for them reporting to the High Council. Elder Bruce R. McConkie's Last Talk. Offer a Handel's Messiah event to the public. Except for a year off for good behavior to teach Primary, I have been participating in ward leadership meetings every Sunday morning for the past twenty-five years. You are right on! I love that quote you mentioned. When autocomplete results are available use up and down arrows to review and enter to select. We would practice the art of running councils first in bishopric meeting. It takes a very good meeting to be better than no meeting at all., (Said at my stake conference in Concord, NH.). Email and text follow-ups/reporting among the three of us (were without a secretary currently) have gone back and forth through the week and were now preparing for this weeks agenda. A Psalm of Thanksgiving. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints - Wikipedia They also help provide an atmosphere more conducive to enhanced communication. Our meeting came, we opened with a prayer and scripture study and proceeded to discuss a number of individuals, but more importantly, action plans for those individuals, for the coming week. I definitely believe that a general timing rule should exist. If not you will hear in the halls of the Church buildings. Our Deacons quorum presidency is new, so while the meetings might not last more than an hour, we are going to need more of them just now until the new leadership understands their role. Since each council member was focused on their particular organization, we were not a cohesive unit at first. Look at their body language. It is put in the hands of those who are entitled to revelation to lead. In ward council, the leaders in the ward can brainstorm ideas to get various auxiliarie Handbook 2 (4.6.3) states, the ward council seeks inspiration in developing a course of action to bless the lives of members. Does anyone have a file of successful agendas you use in your ward? Everyone will feel obligated to say something and that doesnt help to keep the meeting under 60 minutes. We expect and sometimes we even demand! I have read the handbook regarding the meetings and would like to design agendas which help us to better meet the specific goals and outlines for each meeting. By the way, I also generally play prelude music from my iPad. Exactly, including the Bishop, RS President, EQ President, YW President, etc. If you dont give the meeting a time limit, it will grow out of control. Thanks again for sharing and please share any future successes. Looks like I need to write a part 2 focused on preparing for revelatory experiences. If your tech distracts you, then get rid of it. When that relationship is there and improved, the recommends, baptisms, etc., will come organically. Just be sure that if you cancel, you are not making more work for yourself (or someone else) down the road. The next day at sacrament meeting, the ward member said that he was glad the bishop had his watch as well so he knew he had ended his work on time to honor the Sabbath day. Its an opportunity for teaching and learning. It was gratifying for me as a bishop to hear members say, This is what Ive done, instead of, What do you want me to do?, The response in Joplin shows the power of a united ward council. The Primary president represents the children of the ward ages 18 months through 11 years. If I were the Devil. I dont mind the mindset of people questioning and actively participating, but starting from the premise that the leader is mis-guided is wrong. Tell them you want to talk and get feedback on how your meetings are going. 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